Here's a recent e-mail from Colin Tappe. It's pretty much brilliant.
here's a good AIM conversation between me an my mom
Odindeathcrush is my mom
Jestine is my girlfriend
Mano is my mom's mom
Corina was my 1st (really bad) relationship
we were talking
about a Germs bootleg kinda before it
all starts
you won't read this anyways.
Colin Tappe:
there's been, like, 3 minutes of no music
odindeathcrush: when in doubt always reboot
Colin Tappe: all these fake starts and everything
odindeathcrush: no music...??
Colin Tappe: yeah
odindeathcrush: oh...ycuk
Colin Tappe: like, tuning and stuff
odindeathcrush: great
Colin Tappe: I guess it's amusing
Colin Tappe: as an honest document, or something
odindeathcrush: maybe you caould hear them go to the
bathroom if you are really lucky
Colin Tappe: hey
odindeathcrush: sound boring to me
Colin Tappe: do you think people seek out sexually
what their parents were like, and personality wise
what they lacked from their parents?
Colin Tappe: Like
Colin Tappe: I was talking to Jestine about this
odindeathcrush: sexually? um...
odindeathcrush: hurmm...
Colin Tappe: and she said that there was no way Freud
was right about wanting to fuck your mom/dad
(respectively, depending on your gender)
odindeathcrush: maybe what they perceived them to be
like...but unless they had sex with their parents they
wouldn't know
Colin Tappe: and I pointed out that her dad was a real
dominating person in her life
Colin Tappe: like
odindeathcrush: i agree with her idea of the wanting
to fuck your parents...cuz that is just icky
Colin Tappe: a super strict disciplinarian, etc.
odindeathcrush: but i do know people do seek out
others who they can repeat the parental experience
with
Colin Tappe: and she's really submissive in the sack
Colin Tappe: not, like, a weak girl
Colin Tappe: but she just prefers to be "dominated" if
you will
odindeathcrush: uh...i don't think that has to do with
her dad
odindeathcrush: it's just her preference
Colin Tappe: well
Colin Tappe: I also pointed out
odindeathcrush: lots of girls like to be dominated
odindeathcrush: lots of guys like to be dominated
Colin Tappe: that I like being treated very softly
odindeathcrush: it's a giveing up of control
Colin Tappe: gently, and maternal like
odindeathcrush: hey hey hey! and i'm a cruel harsh
person right?
Colin Tappe: I also enjoy getting a certain...
Colin Tappe: vindication
odindeathcrush: blasphemer!
Colin Tappe: no
odindeathcrush: lol
Colin Tappe: we're getting there
Colin Tappe: like
Colin Tappe: I like, uh...
Colin Tappe: well
Colin Tappe: KNOWING
Colin Tappe: hearing, if you will
Colin Tappe: that I'm "doing a good job"
Colin Tappe: if you catch my drift
odindeathcrush: vindication....ahhhhhh....well that is
normal too
Colin Tappe: sort of like
Colin Tappe: well
odindeathcrush: i mean i don't think it has anything
to do with your parents
odindeathcrush: it's just your way
Colin Tappe: you've always been super supportive of my
work, and stuff
odindeathcrush: no hell kai...i am a meanie i know
it....
odindeathcrush: i was just joking..sorta...
Colin Tappe: and so I need that from a girl
odindeathcrush: i'm no day at the beac h
Colin Tappe: fuck, man, we're working on that
Colin Tappe: I mean
Colin Tappe: there was abuse, and all that, so
supposedly i'd want to be dominated in bed and all
that, according to my theory
Colin Tappe: but the truth is, that at the end of the
day you were super maternal, like
odindeathcrush: ha. right...so there goes that theory
Colin Tappe: a traditional sort of mom
Colin Tappe: in that you did genuinely care/love,
y'know?
Colin Tappe: and I need to get that feeling when I
have sex
Colin Tappe: I seek it out
odindeathcrush: i see where you are going...and you
have something there indeed....
Colin Tappe: I need, like, coddling and all that
Colin Tappe: however
odindeathcrush: but mostly that is related to emo
style
odindeathcrush: not so much blatently your sexual
likes
Colin Tappe: oh, and also being treated like a little
kid
odindeathcrush: but emo style has everythign to do
with sexual style
Colin Tappe: baby talk and all that
Colin Tappe: it's sickening
odindeathcrush: ewwww! lol....
odindeathcrush: well don't let that get around...lol
odindeathcrush: KIDDING!
Colin Tappe: the second part of my thesis statement
Colin Tappe: was that we seek out what our parents
WEREN'T in parents
odindeathcrush: hrummm...that could go either way
Colin Tappe: and in Jestine's case, she really likes
me because I'm super suportive, and like, never yell
at her or anything
odindeathcrush: you could want to NOT be like your
parents in many ways and over compensate
Colin Tappe: she spilled salsa on the bed one day and
was downright flabbergasted that I didn't "scold" her,
or something
odindeathcrush: lol....lke you would get pissed at a
mess, lol
odindeathcrush: uh...how long has she known you?
odindeathcrush: it's not like she scratched one of
your albums
odindeathcrush: lol
odindeathcrush: the general concensus is that people
recreate their parental memories in order to be able
to fix what they couldn't fix the first go round
odindeathcrush: seek out people either exactly like
their parent...or the exact opposite
Colin Tappe: I'm saying we seek out what we needed
that wasn't there from our parents
odindeathcrush: or become just like their parent (to
again fix something) or become the exact opposite
odindeathcrush: yeah i hear you....but
odindeathcrush: that is a form of fixing the situation
Colin Tappe: In my case, even though at the end of the
day there was maternal caring and stuff, I had to
stand on my own a lot, and look out for myself a lot
Colin Tappe: which is good
Colin Tappe: It's a good quality in a person
odindeathcrush: most are not enlightened enough to
know what to look for
odindeathcrush: but you picked carina the first go
round
Colin Tappe: but there's also this side of me that
wasn't that apparent that needed to be totally coddled
Colin Tappe: (no, she picked ME)
odindeathcrush: you recreated as fucked up an
environment as you could
Colin Tappe: (we'll fucking get to that shit, jeezis)
Colin Tappe: anyhoo
odindeathcrush: lol....
Colin Tappe: Jestine's a total coddler
Colin Tappe: she fucking DRESSED me today, for christ
sakes
odindeathcrush: lol
Colin Tappe: put on my pants and shirt for me
Colin Tappe: no lie
odindeathcrush: hey is mano still home???
Colin Tappe: she has that, like, maternal drive, and
that's why it works so well
odindeathcrush: when is she leaving...i need to talk
to her importante
Colin Tappe: for fucks sake are you capable of
following a goddamn conversation?
Colin Tappe: I'm trying to make a point here!
odindeathcrush: and...*i am*
odindeathcrush: following...and i'm following your
point
odindeathcrush: but i have thoughts too ya know
odindeathcrush: go on...
Colin Tappe: yeah, but I can't make that point with
all these interjections
Colin Tappe: anyhoo
Colin Tappe: shit
Colin Tappe: yeah
odindeathcrush: lol
Colin Tappe: she seeks out in me PERSONALITY wise the
opposite of her dad
Colin Tappe: while sexually, it's the same traits
Colin Tappe: my claim is that it comes from the fact
that sexuality is more primitive than our
intrapersonal relationships
odindeathcrush: well i'm only thinking of me and my
perception of my mom and dad and i can't make the
connection you are making with me
Colin Tappe: we want what we can't really question,
cause we're not necessarily aware of it
odindeathcrush: i'd have to ponder on this for a bit
Colin Tappe: it's like, if we REALIZED that we're
fucking like our parents would wanna fuck us, it'd
probably creep us out
odindeathcrush: so you say we repeat who we thought
our parents style was?
odindeathcrush: yes it would
Colin Tappe: it's too subconscious, though
Colin Tappe: well, I imagine if we were fucking you'd
treat me very gently and maternal
Colin Tappe: if Jestine was fucking her dad, he'd
probably be totally dominating
Colin Tappe: even if that's not how they'd fuck their
respective mates
Colin Tappe: it's how they'd probably fuck their kids,
'cause that's how the relationship was like
odindeathcrush: and the reality is i like to be
dominated...and my dad was as passive as milk
Colin Tappe: I'd imagine all the chicks who like to
"be on top" and dominate probably had wimpy dads
odindeathcrush: very non dominating....tho mano....she
was as ice queen-ly as you could get, both emotionally
and physically
Colin Tappe: well, shit, there goes my theory
odindeathcrush: well i'm only one person
Colin Tappe: but mano was more of your father figure
than your dad was, no?
odindeathcrush: scientifically....you would need more
analysis
odindeathcrush: and yeah..sorta, but not really...my
dad
odindeathcrush: was always in the picture...
Colin Tappe: there's no way to analyze this stuff
other than case studies
odindeathcrush: tho i see where you are going
Colin Tappe: a'la Freud
odindeathcrush: well this is a great conversation
starter...lol
Colin Tappe: but people don't take him seriously
anymore
odindeathcrush: people didn't take him seriously back
then either....
odindeathcrush: but there is an essence of genius in
crazy
Colin Tappe: like anyone's gonna take modern
psychoanalysis seriously in 200 years
Colin Tappe: yeah, but he was a good writter, and he
was the first, so his shit endured
Colin Tappe: style over scientific substance
odindeathcrush: er...well, in my book he had stuff to
say....he just said it wrongly
odindeathcrush: substance over style
odindeathcrush: his style is what turned most people
off
odindeathcrush: in my op
Colin Tappe: as for the Corina situation
Colin Tappe: I'm just conditioned to survive abusive
situations
Colin Tappe: doesn't necessarily mean I WANT them
Colin Tappe: seek them out, per se
Colin Tappe: Jestine treats me like a queen
odindeathcrush: i think you got stuck in a situation
you didn't know how to get out of
Colin Tappe: and that's why it works, on a real level,
not just...continues
odindeathcrush: you knew it was wrong but you cared
about her welfare as well
Colin Tappe: word